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Post by Mark Caringer on Oct 25, 2010 2:48:27 GMT -5
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Post by Megalictis on Oct 26, 2010 11:06:16 GMT -5
Thanks again for another excellent video review! "Wolverine Goes to Hell" is just one more reason why Jason Aaron is the best writer Wolverine's had in years. His knowledge of the backstories of the major supporting characters in Wolverine's past is comprehensive, and he's not afraid to use it. For a life-long Wolverine fan like me, that results in the kind of stories that remind be of the Hama years. For example, Aaron remembered that Amiko is supposed to be descended from some mystical line of priestesses, and he references that here in a back-up story that gives me hope that he may give Logan's often-neglected foster-daughter a bigger role.
I was delighted to see John Wraith alive in the previous issue and was sadddened to learn in this issue that his resurrection was short-lived. At least he got a better send-off this time.
The conspirators who are behind Logan's possession and premature damnation are called the Red Right Hand (perhaps originally a Hellboy fan club gone horribly wrong?). Little bits of information are being revealed about them in Daken: Dark Wolverine (and apparently Daken has a past with these people that goes back 50 years), and repercussions are spilling over into X-23 (where Laura has just gone to hell herself after confronting "Hellverine" on Utopia).
The shirtless man with the inverted pentagram accompanying the Ghost Rider brothers is Damon Hellstrom, the Son of Satan (who's relationship with his father isn't very amicable). If anybody's got a snowball's chance of sending a rescue party into hell, it's these guys.
The one thing that really bothered me about this issue is that I disagree vehmently with Aaron over the damnation of Mariko Yashida on the sole grounds that she headed a Yakuza crime family (a position she inherited in a criminal enterprise she was trying to shut-down). For the time being I console myself with the notion that Beelzebub means "lord of lies" and that the devil can show Logan any illusion he chooses to hurt him.
And I'm virtually certain the stranger with Eugene Judd is Thomas Logan - the first man Wolverine ever sent to hell.
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Post by Mark Caringer on Oct 26, 2010 21:46:07 GMT -5
Wraith was handled wrong, where was his powers, is he really dead? He supposedly died by Omega Red, Sabretooth and now Hellverine. We'll see I did pick up X-23 1 and 2 today, and so I will finally get caught up with that series. I'm hoping its good last time i saw Damon Hellstrom Wolverine 113 and 114, older dude, beard and long long hair, I see he has changed a bit. lol maybe Jason Aaron believes in the biblical stance of, to make Heaven your home you must repent, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and sin no more, you got to Hell. cause Nightcrawler and Wraith are they only ones I think that made it to Heaven. I think that would explain Mariko's placement. I wonder what Thomas Logan going to tell him. Thomas Logan - "Rose never told what happen to your father" Wolverine - "She told me enough. She told me you killed him" Thomas Logan - "No.. I am your father" Wolverine - <shakes head>"no..no..that's that true, that's Impossible!" Thomas Logan - "Search your feeling you know it be true" Wolverine - "NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!! NOOOooo!" Thomas Logan - "James, You can destroy the Devil he has for seen this it is your destiny. join me and together we can rule Hell as father and son. Wolverine - "..."<claws Thomas Logan's head off> my Star Wars tribute To get a better feel for the emotion watch the original scene www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6sj89xgnl4&NR=1
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Post by Megalictis on Oct 29, 2010 10:20:18 GMT -5
Odds are good that Wraith lost his powers on M-Day like the overwhelming majority of mutants not closely associated with the X-Men. And I remember Sabretooth killing Wraith (back when he was "recruiting" Maverick to join Colcord's Weapon X as Weapon 0), but when did Omega Red kill him?
The devil's stated explanation was that Mariko was head of a Yakuza crime family. I'm less curious about the absence of Nightcrawler and Wraith (as I didn't expect to find either in Hell) than I am about the absence of Silver Fox, who spent decades as a leader of the terrorist organization, Hydra.
Regardless of what Jason Aaron believes personally there is nothing in the story to indicate that Marvel is taking a position that implies that God condemned the 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust to the same eternal sufferring as Hitler, for the same reason. The Jewish Anit-defamation League (and Stan Lee) would probably protest that stance.
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