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Post by evolution on Mar 14, 2008 22:20:11 GMT -5
Here is my first 2 questions?
1.
In the "Black Panther Annual: Black to the Future
It's 2057, and Wolverine appears in the issue.
How old does he look?
2.
Then in the Wolverine series #66.
"Old Man Logan," Logan appears in his mid-50s.
and is 166 years old, I think the year is 2058.
Will these two Wolverine's look the same or different?
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Post by Megalictis on Mar 15, 2008 11:37:30 GMT -5
I didn't see the Black Panter issue you mention, but Logan looking to be in his mid-fifties at 166 us about right.
As a general precedent Logan ages about 1/3 as fast as normal people. He was probably born in 1897, making him 111 this spring, so he should look about 37. In 55 years at age 166 he'll look 55. In Wolverine: The End he was 210 and looked 70. (The exception is Days of Future Past where he liiked to be in his mid-50's, but this was before they established his age).
This theory breaks down a bit since he aged normally until he was an adult and has only been slow-aging for about the last 90 years, so he should look about 48 now.
Truth is artistic license makes it a little hard to set strict rules. The flashbacks from "Get Mystique" are set in 1921, but Logan looks older than 24 to me.
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Post by evolution on Mar 15, 2008 18:55:58 GMT -5
Logan, a.k.a. James Holwett was born in 1892.
It would make him 116 this year.
(2008) 116+50=166. (Wolverine/Old Man Logan) appears in mid-50s
(2004) 112+98=210. (Wolverine: The End) appears in mid-70s
1892+121=2013. (Days of Future Past) appears in mid-
the reason why I would go with James being born in 1892.
- powers manifested: 1907
-after killed Rose ran off: 1910
-Met Silver Fox / Sabretooth crashed party - 1910s (Logan's 18)
Must have been a fake memory, because he looks to be 30-ish.
-Logan fought in WWI - 1915 (Logan's 23)
-Logan first met Mystique (Raven) - 1921 (Logan's 29)
Thats what I think.
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Post by evolution on Mar 30, 2008 19:34:36 GMT -5
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Post by evolution on Jul 1, 2008 23:06:24 GMT -5
Old Man Logan verses Wolverine: The End
Wolverine: The End =
The story was okay, but they could have done a little better.
Old Man Logan =
I know only part 1 of 8, was released and what I read and saw,
was a whole lot better than = Wolverine: The End. It was pretty @#$$ cool!
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Post by Megalictis on Jul 2, 2008 8:44:52 GMT -5
I agree that both in story (thus far) and artwork "Old Man Logan" surpasses Wolverine: The End.
As to Logan's age, the closest estimate based on canon sources (both in and out of continuity) is that James Howlett was born before April 19 in 1897. This conclusion is based on the following three data points:
1) the tombstone of John Howlett, Jr. lists the date of his death as 1897 in Origin #2,
2) In Wolverine: The End we see that James was an infant when John, Jr. attacked his mother, Elizabeth Howlett, when he discovered her affair with Thomas Logan. Elizabeth apparently had a nervous breakbown and spent some time in a sanitarium while John, Jr. was disowned, institutionalized and passed-off for dead (the date on the aforementioned tombstone sets the date of this incident and James' age at the time),
3) In Wolverine: First Class #2 Kitty discovers the date of Logan's birthday and plans a surprise party for him in hopes that he will then drive her and her friends to a Dazzler concert out of gratitude. Since the date of the concert is April 19, Logan's birthday must fall shortly before that.
The shortconing of this theory is that it is partly based on Wolverine: The End, which, like any story set in the future, is out continuity and thus subject to later contradiction. If, for example, a story set in continuity (present time) shows a flashback of a six-year-old James with his older brother then this would "prove" that Wolverine was born at least six years before John "died." Another example of in-continuity stories taking percedence future stories would be if a present-time story showed some old record specifically stating the date of his birth.
Another problem with trying to reconcile Origin and Wolverine: The End is that it makes Logan just 18 in WWI in 1915 when he met Lazaer, which would then have to be almost immediately after Rose died at the quarry in Brittish Columbia.
Since Loeb reset the first meeting between Sabretoooth and Wolverine in Japan it's apparent that the Silver Fox's murder occurs after WWI, and not "a century ago" near Mt. Logan as Kitty Pryde said in Wolverine #125. Hopefully by the time Way finishes Wolverine: Origins we'll have a cohesive, difinitive timeline of the events in Wolverine's life.
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Post by evolution on Aug 23, 2008 18:41:53 GMT -5
After the "Old Man Logan" arc story is finished;
What adventures can we expect from are small,
brutish, canadian mutant friend?
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Post by evolution on Sept 19, 2008 9:54:11 GMT -5
Since Wolverine is part animal, my question is this:
How fast can he run, and how high can he jump?
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Post by Megalictis on Sept 19, 2008 16:45:17 GMT -5
I don't know that I'd write him off as "part animal" just yet - that whole "Wolverine evolved from a canine hominid species" theory is pure speculation. I prefer to think of it as an "early mutant sub-species" of the same branch of hominid evolution we all share. I don't think there's ever been a measurement stated for his fastest sprint or highest jump. Both are somewhat limited by his size and weight. Physically Logan is more about strength, stamina and endurance. In peak condition Logan's healing factor gives him the ability to surpass any normal human athlete, but he can't jump as high as Spider Man or run as fast as Northstar... they'll just get tired before he does.  |
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Post by evolution on Oct 2, 2008 2:05:03 GMT -5
Does Wolverine/Logan ever shave?
Well, if he does he sort of has a problem, why,
because (back when he shaved his head in issue #59)
it grows back to its normal state.
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Post by CongoJack on Oct 2, 2008 6:51:54 GMT -5
After the "Old Man Logan" arc story is finished; What adventures can we expect from are small, brutish, canadian mutant friend? Marvel have been hinting that Jason Aaron might come back to the title after Millar and McNiven finish up OLD MAN LOGAN. Also C.B. Cebulski and David Finch are supposed to be doing an arc for WOLVERINE once Finch finishes ULTIMATUM. Does Wolverine/Logan ever shave? Well, if he does he sort of has a problem, why, because (back when he shaved his head in issue #59) it grows back to its normal state. I can’t remember an on-panel appearance of Logan shaving, but it must have happened at some point. The almost instant hair growth originated in WEAPON X. John Byrne raised a funny/interesting point about this apparent new powerset that Logan has. He said he shaved his beard off last week but now it is fully back, and this process is not called ‘healing’. |
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Post by Megalictis on Oct 2, 2008 9:21:46 GMT -5
In the most recenet issue of Wolverine: First Class (#6) Logan yells at Kitty for using his razor on her legs. Yes he shaves, and yes his hair and sideburns have been burned off and grown back very quickly, while the rest of his beard doesn't fill in at the same rate. It's inconsistent from story to story and artist to artist.
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